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Tuesday, February 20, 2007

Smoking Ban Gets Cool Reception from Northern Minnesota Lawmakers

by Leigh Pomeroy

There is a common assumption that the Freedom to Breathe Act should receive a much more friendly reception in the DFL-dominated Minnesota legislature than it has in the past when the GOP controlled the State House. Not so fast.

The bill came up Monday in the Senate Business, Jobs and Industry Committee, and the senators who put up the most road blocks were — you guessed it — DFLers.

The principal naysayer was Sen. David Tomassoni, DFL-Chisholm, whose chief concern was protecting the myriad small, locally-owned bars that dot the Iron Range communities he represents. And no wonder. In many shrinking rural Minnesota towns all that remains of a former modestly prosperous community is the town bar — the place where locals gather to drink, talk, eat and, yes, smoke if they wish. One can't blame Sen. Tomassoni for wanting to keep this perhaps last vestige of rural Minnesota intact.

Yet his proposal to save them is a double-edged sword. The Senate Business, Jobs and Industry Committee at his behest added an amendment to the Freedom to Breathe Act that allows bars to add smoking ventilation systems to exempt them from coming under the heavy hand of the smoking ban. A good compromise, one might think, but will it work? Here are three potential problems:

(1) Ventilation systems that clear smoke from the air are very expensive — somewhere in the neighborhood of $5,000 and up if they are to have any effect whatsoever. Sure, there are less expensive systems, but are they effective? Bar owners say yes, yet filters often need to be replaced or cleaned monthly, and many bar owners who have them admit this is maintenance they rarely get around to.

(2) There is nothing in the amendment to the legislation to set a clean air standard for bars that use ventilation systems. And who's to monitor them? The MPCA? That's not mentioned either.

(3) No standard has been set, either by Minnesota or the federal government, of a safe level of secondhand smoke. Put simply, no one knows. If a bar installs a $5,000 ventilation system, should it scrub the air completely of all smoke to create a safe environment? No one knows that, either.

One cannot blame Sen. Tomassoni, or for that matter Sen. Rod Skoe, DFL-Clearbrook, for supporting the ventilation option. They are only representing vocal members of their constituencies. Yet they should realize that if a smoking ban without exemptions is enacted, the sky will not fall, hell will not freeze over, and Minnesota will not suffer from consistent 70º winter days (thus excluding ice fishing).

Periodically societies face such dilemmas of personal freedoms vs. societal obligations. This society has faced them before — Remember seat belts? Child car seats? Alcohol limits? — and still thrived with 99.99% of its freedoms intact. Adding a smoking ban as proposed in the Minnesota Freedom to Breathe act may cause temporary discomfort for some, but evidence gathered from other states and countries where similar legislation has been enacted proves that economic hits, if they occur, are inevitably short-lived.

Bar owners and patrons become used to the changes, those who don't like secondhand smoke feel welcome again, and life goes on. Let's be real candid here: If Minnesotans can deal with sub-zero winters and mosquito-infested summers, then living with a smoking ban ought to be no more difficult than sitting in an ice house for eight hours on a Sunday afternoon and catching nothing but a six-pack of beer, a bag of pretzels and the Packers blowing out the Vikings on TV.

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Blogger Leigh Pomeroy said...

Good question. One option that has been bandied about has been to issue licenses to bars that want to allow smoking, charging fees and requiring insurance and/or bonds to cover a certain percentage of the public health costs for dealing with smoking-cause illnesses. It's also been suggested that employers purchase mandatory health insurance for all employees who work in a secondhand smoke environment.

There are several problems with this:

(1) How do you determine what is a fair share of smoking-related health care costs?

(2) Since smoking-related illnesses usually don't crop up till later in life, does this mean that the bar owner would have to supply lifelong insurance for any one-time employee to cover any smoking-related illness he or she might contract?

(3) OSHA regulations state that the employer is fully responsible for creating a safe environment in the workplace. In other words, either a workplace is safe or it is not — there is no gray area.: Is secondhand smoke dangerous to health, yes or no? If yes, is there any safe level? If no, then any secondhand smoke creates an unsafe workplace.

It's a conundrum.

9:09 AM  
Blogger Patrick Dempsey said...

Tom, you are such a cynic! Don't you know that you aren't smart enough to deal with life as you see fit? The government is there to protect you from yourself. Just look at all the good works going on in St Paul this session - bans on cell phone use in your car, freedom to take poop in a private business, tax breaks for students (that's a laugher!), state social workers to visit you after having a baby to give you info on all the goodies government will do for you and your newborn, how about that 'mileage tax' being talked about in ADDITION to an increase in the gas tax?! The list goes on and on...

We should embrace more and more and more government because only government has the answers to all the ills that aflict us. This legislature is on the 'ban and tax' rampage. I can't wait to see what they ban and tax next for my benefit!

And the lapdog voters will keep voting for more and more and more and more and more gravy and the Republicans and Democrats will say 'as long as you keep electing me, I'll keep the river of gravy running at full speed'.

Only in Minnesota do we think of raising taxes when we have a $2 billion surplus.

3:54 PM  
Blogger Minnesota Central said...

Doesn’t this prove that all politics is local. Legislators respond to the constituents that speak up (or better yet donate), so it should not be surprising that some State Senators would buck the party image.
But, how ridiculous is this proposal !
Phasing in allowances for HVAC systems to 2014 is totally absurd. If ventilation systems can really change the composition of the air, then why not require it within one year? Without getting into the question of whether ventilation systems would really work, will we have MPAC officials coming into restaurants monitoring compliance levels? Sounds to me like another waste of taxpayer dollars.
The only thing missing here is the Republican cure … tax subsidies. Remember last session when Tony Cornish proposed a $20,000 credit for stations to install E85 pumps? There are currently over 300 stations that sell E85 and many of those are owned by companies such as ExxonMobil, KwikTrip, etc. That’s all Exxon needs is another tax break.

http://www.house.leg.state.mn.us/members/pressreleasels85.asp?district=24B&pressid=213&party=2

7:27 AM  
Blogger Patrick Dempsey said...

I agree all politics is local, but why is everyone so PO'd about property taxes going up? Isn't our school board and our county board the government closest to us? Why are people demanding the legislature do something about property taxes when we have the power in our own communities to get out and vote for our boards and their levies?

Seriously, who among us would call our legislator and say 'y'know, I have irritable bowel sydrome. can you pass a law allowing my go poop in a private business when my IBS acts up?' who among us said 'yeah, please tax me when I fill up AND when I drive'. Who among us said 'please, ban smoking but don't ban cigarettes'? Who among us said 'Attaboy, Mr Pogemiller, give yourself a nice fat raise'. Did we really vote for these issues or donate money to enact these laws?

This legislature is the biggest collection of big government nannies we have ever seen in Minnesota. As I said previously, they are on a 'tax and ban' rampage. Did we honestly vote for this?! When she first ran for Congress, Democrat Betty McCollum was asked 'what limits does government have', to which she responded 'none'. Folks, you get what you vote for.

2:01 PM  
Blogger Minnesota Central said...

As predicted, a tax cut proposal has been passed in committee. I wonder who sponsored this change and if it was a recorded vote.
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"Minnesota bars and restaurant owners would get a temporary tax break if they go smoke-free later this year under a changed version of a statewide smoking ban that passed the House Commerce and Labor Committee today.

Under the proposal, any bar or restaurant that is smoke-free between August 2008 and January 2009 wouldn't have to pay the current 2.5 percent liquor tax. All bars, restaurants and private clubs would have to be smoke-free by January 2009.

If all the state's liquor serving establishments decided to ban smoking in August 2008, the tax break could cost the state millions of dollars. Right now, the state gets about $60 million every two years from the liquor tax.

The smoking ban still needs to be heard in several committees, pass the House and Senate and be signed by the governor before it could become law."

12:59 PM  

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